tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post8257460048222256055..comments2024-03-22T04:40:34.682-05:00Comments on REFUSING PSYCHIATRY: Jail and the mentally illSRKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18038834371981947620noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-29906221994972386262012-04-13T11:15:02.673-05:002012-04-13T11:15:02.673-05:00The gun just went off man. I didn't do it! (jo...The gun just went off man. I didn't do it! (joke)Mark p.s.2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10529811159862096782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-77321808240279240162012-02-28T12:26:24.465-06:002012-02-28T12:26:24.465-06:00The problem is less "too many people locked u...The problem is less "too many people locked up" than "too few people corrected."<br /><br />Psychiatric "treatment" may be equally as effective as prison, for the purpose of punishment or incapacitation. But it's certainly no more likely to make anyone better.SRKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18038834371981947620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-89170005973575364162012-02-28T12:22:07.186-06:002012-02-28T12:22:07.186-06:00Criminal activity is NOT medical illness. It is be...Criminal activity is NOT medical illness. It is behavior which a person's fellows will not tolerate, no more and no less. No excuse or reason will alter that fact.<br /><br />Good and evil are chosen, and as real as life itself.<br /><br />I believe you are quite honest, but partially mistaken, when you say, "I didn't do anything!"<br /><br />The people who locked you up as a bad guy were also partially mistaken. But they are somewhat better than "thick headed, flag waving rednecks" and you probably will die or spend years on neuroleptic drugs unless you can understand them better than that.SRKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18038834371981947620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-42383941369806799312012-02-28T05:35:26.289-06:002012-02-28T05:35:26.289-06:00OMG, I typed out a giant response and then somehow...OMG, I typed out a giant response and then somehow it disappeared. Anyway, I'll just sum up what I was saying.<br /><br />I agree that psychiatry is bogus but I don't think we as a society can continue going on the way we do with law and punishment. There are some people who break the law because they think it will benefit them and often it does, and they should surely be punished when caught. But many more, probably 90%, of people are simply just living their lives and everything else is incidental. Most "criminal activity" is either an "episode" of yet to be understood medical illness or the product of daily life in a certain environment. I'm positive that even the most thick headed of the flag waving, "law abiding" conservative rednecks out there would be gangbangin and smoking dope if that were the environment that they grew up in. We need ways of addressing these problems and preventing crime through that approach, as opposed to just chasing "bad guys" and locking them up. I was hoping psychiatry would be this something, but they are not. There is no such thing as good and evil. People are just people and as the species evolves this will become better known. <br /><br />Lastly, I only intended to plead not guilty by reason of insanity -- full well knowing I would be forcibly drugged, as I had been in the past -- because I felt totally violated that I was even being charged. <i>I didn't do anything!</i>, I had as much control over what happened as a lamp shade. I would had rather died, or spent years on neuroleptic drugs, than to plead guilty to that "crime".Jeffreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-64177557251613016562012-02-27T10:19:43.015-06:002012-02-27T10:19:43.015-06:00Couple things Jeffrey...
For one, you were not f...Couple things Jeffrey... <br /><br />For one, you were not found NGRI. If you had been, you'd have been committed involuntarily for a period not to exceed the maximum sentence for the crime had you been found guilty (apparently 2 years). Then, as you entered the gates of the state nuthouse, somebody would have told you essentially, "Either take the meds you are prescribed or you will never leave here." It would have been illegal for the person to say that, but they would have said it anyway.<br /><br />I've had plenty of clients say that if they had to do it over again, they'd prefer to serve an honest prison sentence than be found NGRI. You're willing to keep the insanity defense around, perhaps, because you've never been found NGRI.<br /><br />Secondly, if a person having a diabetic fit crashes their car and kills somebody, they don't plead "not guilty by reason of insanity". The law has many, ages-old, subtle ways of considering and accounting for responsibility, lack of mens rea, etc. We do not need psychiatry, which does nothing but degrade the law, and medicine, and humanity itself.SRKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18038834371981947620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-80111259880464842092012-02-27T03:41:40.082-06:002012-02-27T03:41:40.082-06:00I've had times in my life when my behavior was...I've had times in my life when my behavior was truly not under my control. Years ago I had this terribly intense feeling of pressure in my sinuses/head, and it caused me to begin screaming involuntarily. Then, for no reason and with no conscious awareness, I began beating my head against the wall, then my fists, then I was tazed and arrested. Whatever it was, still today unknown, it was definitely medical and not a matter of free will. My landlord filed charges and I was facing up to 2 years in prison, A plea bargain was offered with only 180 days in jail if I could pay the extremely (intentionally) inflated cost of around $2,600 for what was truly maybe 200 dollars worth of damage. I decided to take it to trial and plead insanity, but just after I did the prosecutor re-bargained for 1 year probation, no-contest plea, and a civil court would deal with damages and restitution. <br /><br />I guess my point is, to hell with psychiatry, but not the insanity defense. If a person having a diabetic fit or a seizure crashes their car and kills somebody, should they go to prison for vehicular manslaughter? Are you denying that phenomena occur in people in which their behavior goes out of control? Should anybody be punished for something that's not their fault, was not a conscious decision that they made?Jeffreyhttp://www.madinamerica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-53078764493344329482012-02-26T14:52:00.825-06:002012-02-26T14:52:00.825-06:00We've been doing some work on this issue also,...We've been doing some work on this issue also, and it occurs to me that possibly the agenda going on is to relieve the stigma of the U.S. locking up too many people in prison by transferring a good many of these people to psychiatric institutions and pretending they have made a difference.Tina Minkowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10113517675133483792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129153260738117116.post-71807241101100488642012-02-24T18:43:26.580-06:002012-02-24T18:43:26.580-06:00I love your blog. Do you have an organization, bec...I love your blog. Do you have an organization, because I have been thinking of organizing, as Citizens Against Psychiatric Abuses (CAPA) or some other name. If I tell you I was inv. committed for sending an email that mentioned suicide, can I then say that I am not at all insane and be believed? Maybe by you, SRK.<br /><br />When this happened to me, I was a professional with an M.A., but I was totally ignorant of the process. I've spent eight months researching how I was "mugged" by the system and it get wierder every moment.<br /><br />I want to sue the bastards under Section 1983. I'd like to discuss it with you but I understand you probably want anonymity, too. Don't blame you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com